Ya, I'm an older programmer, now retired. Started with Pine email reader, saw the birth of the internet, worked my way up from support to tech writer to coding. Went from vb to vb.net to asp.net to c#.net and lately, Java and Oracle ADF & BPM development. I've been in the corner office, but like the coding desk better. Moved back to coding from solution architecture with Oracle because coding is more fun.